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    December 11, 2019

    Puzzle & Dragons PAD endgame problem, now worse than ever

    PAD endgame problem, now worse than ever

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 07:44 AM PST

    This may seem like a rant but really I will just be analyzing the situation currently and compare to the past.

    I've played PAD for years, and I don't think there has been a worse time for the game endgame-wise at right now.

    Let's take a look what there is to do atm, there is killer farming, py farming, and rare card to chase like the two new card in the new AA3 and Colloseum

    We dont even need to plus farm or farm evo mats that often anymore as most pantheon come awoken and +297. Even evo gems can be rolled from pal machines and latents are freely given from events and monthly anyways its not even necessary to farm arenas that often.

    I dont feel like doing anything except new dungeon once for the stone and the monthly quests for obvious first clear rewards. There is no replayability, progression wise. There exceptions of course like dorothy for the assist evo, but too rare to even count.

    In the past, it was different by quite a bit. First, there is MP system. back when mp shop is first introduced, everything is amazing in there, top leads and subs, they were powerful even comparing to the most rare rem rolls. Ra drag xiangmei systems. Point is the top cards were farmable with mp, and it gave people something to do with their stamina. Farming z8 or linthia was something to do endgame with progression as the new mp monsters can make teams stronger.

    Mp shop has gotten so neglected it might as well not exist. Right now its a shop mostly for new players to get odin dra/amen, and for evo mats

    No new evos or balance buffs for MP cards meant they are not team building worthy unless for memes or cheerleader. They have been power crept out of existence.

    The problem however isnt the mp system being forgotten, as new contents will always replace the old. But the issue is there is nothing end game or farmable released after mp shop got forgotten.

    When you remove an endgame content and replace it with nothing, or i dont know a holiday/collab token system with no real reward, it removes something to do in game.

    To keep it short, point is pad these days is all about new players and that has left the end game empty for anyone with a decently developed box. How do players use up their daily stamina is beyond me, as I am sitting with mostly full bars after clearing monthly. Before I remember wanting to stone for stamina to play more or for mp, but now no way. And that is a huge change.

    I really think pad should learn from some of the other gacha games for how to develop content that is repeatable.

    Important thing is there is no progression in game aside from rolling rem, Other games have equip or whatever farming as end game content to boost the rem rolls but pad, even equips are rem rolls.

    Rant over and tbh i think resolving this game end issue isnt so hard as plenty was suggested by people in the past, id rather see something to do in game rather than another collab at this point.

    Edit: an example of end game content is progression. For instance if alt colosseum dropped an equip that had multiple evo stages and will turn into a best in slot equip for say +1 blind resis per evo stage and eventually turn into a blind resis plus, and required drops from the dungeon to evolve. Each run would make your team stronger, make it feel the effort is worth something. Whereas every time i try to click arena i think why do i need a 50th dragongoddevil killer. Main point is the farmable, similar to how mp system was, needs to be impactful, time consuming/commitment, otherwise why would i bother to grind for it when it will just be another box cheerleader. Like gaswole equip from AA3 is kind of a waste, its basically rathian, which i am sure any decent box should have an equivalent of.

    submitted by /u/Forgottenadun
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    [JP] Annihilation Descended Rush - for those that want Gaslowe but can't beat AA3

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 12:22 PM PST

    [JP] Annihilation Endless .. Never again

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 05:40 AM PST

    How are you guys using Ranger Slayer?

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 09:58 AM PST

    I have her second evolution with God Slayers and her damage is amazing. She just doesnt fit on any of my teams (may change once I get Phenom for Ina/Phenom).

    What are her best uses? I have Zaerog, Alatreon, and Thancred... I heard those are great subs for her first form?

    submitted by /u/Gethixit
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    Weird bar/glitch appearing on bottom of screen?

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 11:04 AM PST

    Gottteeemmmm

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 06:23 PM PST

    [Brag]Late to the party, but first time clearing AA2.

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 07:14 AM PST

    [Achievement] Solo Complete Annihilation Endless Corridor - First time ever that something feels so accomplished <3!

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 09:18 PM PST

    [Achievement] Solo Complete Annihilation Endless Corridor - First time ever that something feels so accomplished <3!

    This feels like the biggest achievement I have accomplished in PAD. <3!! Thank you, Girth and others who came and cheered me when I was facing the "Endless" Kali.

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    And my team for anyone who is interested. This team can tank Kali & heal up to full every turn, as long as you don't play carelessly.

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    RANT: This dungeon is hell. Kali is hell. The path that leads to Kali was the same kind of hell. I am not touching this dungeon again >..<. But there is still a 3P version to do...

    EXPECTATION: Here are some note for people to expect:

    1. Floor 2 has the classic Yomi Tama that has DVP and puts on the shield after the first turn, then 300,000+ damage every turn after.
    2. Floor 3: A slight touch of 154k preemptive damage.
    3. Floor 6: Ninegaruda. Everyone's favorite number dragon.
    4. Floor 8: Enoch transforms your leader to Reincarnated Raphael. If you fail to kill her, she puts up 75% shield and starts counting down from 5. Lots of spanking when the countdown reaches 0.
    5. Floor 9: The classic duo Thumbelina on the left (which does 99% gravity every turn) and Water Ninja that absorbs 2 attributes on the right (so that you can't kill it and get killed after the hit from Thumbelina).
    6. Floor 10: Pumpkin Joker is horrific. He is extremely dangerous in this dungeon when he does RCV half + gravity + hit.
    7. Floor 15: Kushinadahime - well, everyone has so much TE these days so she's here for you.
    8. Floor 16: Reiwa: Super annoying. No skyfall. Absorb random damage. Has rage hit.
    9. Floor 18: Algedi: 3 row spinners. Fixes start position so you can't actually change it to your advantage.
    10. Floor 19: Hera DQ will be expecting you here. Get ready for 302k preemptive damage.
    11. Floor 20: Fenrir or Gaia: Because annihilation isn't annihilation without unmatchable orbs.
    12. Floor 21: A fujin spawn (Ciel) that has 1B HP and does a preemptive of a resolved Hino Kagutsuchi (bai bai skills). Get ready to stall for your Fujin again while she halves your RCV & gives you some nice gravity.
    13. Floor 23: Orpharion!! Everyone's most beloved boss. Under 50% resolve = instant execution.
    14. Floor 26: Bigfoot. Crazily tanky. Feels like a smaller version of Kali.
    15. Floor 30: Kali - Everyone wishes for her in GFE, and here she is! She is easy (sarcastic, in case it's not obvious). Only 250M HP AND 99% shield for 999 turns. She only has 1 skill set, which is to do 99% gravity followed immediately by multiple hits for a total of 100,800 damage.

    Advise: Here are what I think you can take into consideration to increase your win rate against this hellish dungeon:

    1. Besides God Killers, Machine Killers & Healer Killers definitely makes this dungeon much easier.
    2. Use 7x6 for consistency. Floor 1 is stallable, bring a 7x6 leads that can RCV quickly while doing mediocre damage to swap out your ace.
    3. Short-CD TE such as Diaochan or Kirumumu is recommended.
    4. Make sure you have plenty of HP and a shield built-in the LS. Otherwise you will need to hit really hard on Kali while delaying her. It's doable, but I prefer a safer approach.
    5. Some floors are stallable, some are not. They share very similar movesets with bosses we have had so you can use your judgement here.

    Have fun!(never again for me... But if anyone wants 3P Complete Annihilation EC though, ping me)

    submitted by /u/afunworm
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    LF Base Lina friends 395 643 471

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 12:27 PM PST

    [PSA] If you're farming in the 3P collab dungeon, please bring non-super awakening cloud resist.

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 08:19 PM PST

    First round attack is a 5-turn 3x3 cloud.

    submitted by /u/MagicallyVermicious
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    [LF] claiomh 308112341

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 06:43 AM PST

    [LF] Tifa Friends 393,125,435

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 10:17 AM PST

    Congrats to Girth on 2nd place in Untitled Beach Tournament

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 02:46 PM PST

    Of all the leads I’ve thrown at AA3, I didn’t expect Chidori to my first clear lead but here I am

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 02:21 PM PST

    SWIPE TEAM - Raoh takes on ONE SHOT LIT DUNGEON!

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 10:41 AM PST

    [LF] Kaname Chidori friends 358,122,350

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 10:21 AM PST

    [LF] Orphen Friends :D 370 920 399

    Posted: 11 Dec 2019 08:35 AM PST

    Not sure since when these multicolored spherical objects hit king fattie dungeon, but im not complaining

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 02:30 PM PST

    [Guide] I hate the tournament prize display, so here's one I spun up in a few minutes. ("Chillin’ with Qilin Fixed Team")

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 02:55 PM PST

    Maybe I'll improve the code and spin up a better one for next time.

    Rank Crown Event Medal - Rainbow Super Snow Globe Dragon x7 Snow Globe Dragon Rouge x7 Snow Globe Dragon Bleu x7 Snow Globe Dragon Vert x7 Snow Globe Dragon Blanc x7 Snow Globe Dragon Noir x7 777 + Point(s) 7-Year Anniversary TAMADRA
    0.1% - 7.0% ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    7.1% - 17.0% ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    17.1% - 27.0% ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    27.1% - 37.0% ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    37.1% - 47.0% ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    47.1% - 57.0% ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    57.1% - 67.0% ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    67.1% - 77.0% ✓ ✓ ✓
    77.1% - 87.0% ✓ ✓
    87.1% - 100.0% ✓

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    Prize 0.1% - 7.0% 7.1% - 17.0% 17.1% - 27.0% 27.1% - 37.0% 37.1% - 47.0% 47.1% - 57.0% 57.1% - 67.0% 67.1% - 77.0% 77.1% - 87.0% 87.1% - 100.0%
    Crown ✓
    Event Medal - Rainbow ✓ ✓
    Super Snow Globe Dragon x7 ✓ ✓ ✓
    Snow Globe Dragon Rouge x7 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    Snow Globe Dragon Bleu x7 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    Snow Globe Dragon Vert x7 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    Snow Globe Dragon Blanc x7 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    Snow Globe Dragon Noir x7 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    777 + Point(s) ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    7-Year Anniversary TAMADRA ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
    submitted by /u/Raijinili
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    Does anyone have Valtens gem for trade? Can give you a couple of pys for it. Not the red ones tho. Or if I have another gem you might need

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 10:40 PM PST

    Personal best on Green Earth Dragon

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 08:20 PM PST

    [LF] dark roche friends 321503460

    Posted: 10 Dec 2019 05:54 PM PST

    Wanna try core x roche but no one runs her lol. I also have haohmaru, dkarin, and zkitty

    submitted by /u/davidj75589
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